[05:53:09pm] <W1ZrD> There has been nuclear war, most people are dead...
[05:53:22pm] <W1ZrD> like on the lines of fallout
[05:53:29pm] <AllegedlyDead> Never played Fallout.........
[05:53:36pm] <W1ZrD> I played the first
[05:53:37pm] <AllegedlyDead> So lets not include game references here.
[05:53:47pm] <AllegedlyDead> Or you're gonna get me caught in a mindfuck.
[05:54:09pm] <vdfa> thats a visual I didnt need...
[05:54:17pm] <AllegedlyDead> lmfao
[05:54:22pm] <W1ZrD> hold on, i'll switch to another usb stick, have some reference pictures
[05:55:24pm] <AllegedlyDead> If you're going to send me pictures... Zip/7-Zip them up and send them.
[05:56:59pm] <W1ZrD> bah, haven't got that stick here..
[05:59:28pm] <W1ZrD> how about if I just write on random what I had in mind for the world?
[05:59:35pm] <W1ZrD> and see how it works..
[05:59:39pm] <AllegedlyDead> Write that.
[05:59:41pm] <AllegedlyDead> Then let me see it.
[05:59:59pm] <W1ZrD> I hate writing documents with long texts
[06:00:02pm] <W1ZrD> I can't do that
[06:00:10pm] <AllegedlyDead> I can think up of several ways we could go with a "Nuclear War" for a story.
[06:00:20pm] <AllegedlyDead> You're going to have to specify more.
[06:00:30pm] <W1ZrD> I need that kinf of "feedback" during writing as you would get in a face-to-face discussion
[06:01:01pm] <W1ZrD> first of all I thought it should be divided in to two major areas
[06:01:25pm] <W1ZrD> 1) wastelands, or shadowzones, where nomads and outcasts roam
[06:01:36pm] * AllegedlyDead coughs.
[06:01:38pm] <AllegedlyDead> STALKER much?
[06:01:43pm] <W1ZrD> never played
[06:02:13pm] <W1ZrD> I'm thinking "Mad Max beyond Thunderdome:ish"
[06:02:39pm] <AllegedlyDead> I couldn't even watch the first Mad Max movie because the only copies I could find were the horrible shitty re-dubs.
[06:02:47pm] <W1ZrD> anyways...first the 'deadzones' and then there are major city blocks which are self-contained
[06:03:15pm] <W1ZrD> I can't remember them properly, over 10 years ago since I saw any of them
[06:03:51pm] <W1ZrD> outside the major cities there is mainly deserted areas, jungles, deserts, craters and 'forbidden zones'
[06:04:19pm] <W1ZrD> them 'forbidden zones' are where mutated humans have evolved in symbiosis with animals, and mutated with them
[06:04:51pm] <W1ZrD> the reason for the nuclear war was to try and stop spreading of a virus...or so..
[06:04:55pm] <AllegedlyDead> Besides basic story, are we going to be making a single-player story?
[06:05:31pm] <W1ZrD> Would be interesting to make it, but the question is if there is an interest in doing it
[06:05:51pm] <W1ZrD> Personally I never play single-player games when there is an on-line choice
[06:06:08pm] <W1ZrD> I've never played OA or Q3 in single player for instance
[06:06:15pm] <AllegedlyDead> I'm sure I could alter my writing style to accomodate for a single-player story.
[06:06:38pm] <AllegedlyDead> I'm getting a basic idea, right now, for the basic story.
[06:06:49pm] <AllegedlyDead> More or like a narrative approach.
[06:06:54pm] <AllegedlyDead> So it'll read that way.
[06:07:05pm] <W1ZrD> yea, that is good
[06:07:40pm] <AllegedlyDead> But, I'm not gonna come up with any names.
[06:07:42pm] <W1ZrD> try to make it so that, when you play single-player (if we do that), so that the story-line is non-gender/non-character based somehow
[06:07:43pm] <AllegedlyDead> You're going to do that for me.
[06:07:54pm] <W1ZrD> I do names
[06:07:57pm] <AllegedlyDead> Good.
[06:08:05pm] <AllegedlyDead> Because I have the hardest trouble with it.
[06:08:12pm] <AllegedlyDead> Even on my original stuff.
[06:08:40pm] <W1ZrD> I thought, to create some atomsphere in the cities (as for story), it should be that it's mostly glass and contrecte structures
[06:08:50pm] <W1ZrD> and most of them are about 50+ stories high
[06:09:06pm] <AllegedlyDead> Something like the barrier cities from Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within?
[06:09:17pm] <W1ZrD> and in the cities there are different areas, or blocks
[06:09:19pm] <AllegedlyDead> brb/afk for a moment.
[06:09:23pm] <W1ZrD> no idea, I haven't played any games
[06:10:20pm] <W1ZrD> Closer to the 'city center' the blocks have more houses, and higher buildings, they range from 50 stories, up to 150-300 high..
[06:11:12pm] <W1ZrD> in the slum areas there is little police protection and massive gang-wars
[06:11:37pm] <W1ZrD> (now I'm thinking Escape from L.A) or whatever that Kurt Russel movie was..
[06:12:01pm] <W1ZrD> everything, except the slum areas, are controlled by the goverment
[06:12:11pm] <AllegedlyDead> Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is a movie.
[06:12:26pm] <W1ZrD> ah
[06:12:36pm] <W1ZrD> oh..that one I saw some years ago I think
[06:12:59pm] <W1ZrD> Can't remember anything of it except that they did a few nice base-meshes and occulsion lightning
[06:13:04pm] <AllegedlyDead> www.ffodyssey.com/wall...24x768.jpg
[06:13:07pm] <AllegedlyDead> Here, something like that.
[06:13:40pm] <W1ZrD> and the city is inside there?
[06:13:46pm] <AllegedlyDead> Yes.
[06:14:07pm] <W1ZrD> would make sense, wouldn't it?
[06:14:10pm] <AllegedlyDead> Yes.
[06:14:11pm] <AllegedlyDead> lol
[06:14:26pm] <W1ZrD> ok, something like that..
[06:14:32pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ok.
[06:14:39pm] <W1ZrD> and there is no 'normal' food any longer
[06:14:56pm] <W1ZrD> only for the filthy rich people
[06:14:59pm] <AllegedlyDead> All syntheic?
[06:15:07pm] <AllegedlyDead> No idea how to spell the word.
[06:15:08pm] <W1ZrD> for 'normal' it's syntethic
[06:15:15pm] <W1ZrD> no idea either
[06:15:21pm] <AllegedlyDead> XD
[06:15:56pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ok.
[06:16:02pm] <AllegedlyDead> Year time.
[06:16:06pm] <AllegedlyDead> Start of the nuclear war.
[06:16:11pm] <AllegedlyDead> And start of the actual story.
[06:16:20pm] <W1ZrD> and most cities have between 25-80 million people living there
[06:16:30pm] <AllegedlyDead> And how long the war lasted.
[06:16:53pm] <W1ZrD> "present day is 2079" or what did we say? can't remember
[06:17:02pm] <AllegedlyDead> o_O
[06:17:10pm] <W1ZrD> lol@my memory
[06:17:39pm] <AllegedlyDead> Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:18:57pm] <AllegedlyDead> Honestly dude.
[06:19:07pm] <AllegedlyDead> If you're going to do something this big, write this shit down.
[06:19:27pm] <W1ZrD> argh..
[06:20:01pm] <W1ZrD> I had 10-15 pages for A&D, so I was so proud of myself that I wrote that much
[06:20:18pm] <AllegedlyDead> I don't think A&D would have worked out for a game.
[06:20:20pm] <W1ZrD> I can't write, really
[06:20:36pm] <AllegedlyDead> We need something a little more sensible.
[06:20:44pm] <W1ZrD> Snoo showed me something towards A&D, built on the same ideas
[06:20:50pm] <AllegedlyDead> This nuclear war thing seems like a fair way to go.
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[06:21:18pm] <W1ZrD> because of this nuclear war, the earth's resources are running low on everything
[06:21:31pm] * AllegedlyDead sighs.
[06:21:39pm] <W1ZrD> so space exploration is the way to find more 'stuff'
[06:21:49pm] <W1ZrD> I'll copy this to some text document or so..
[06:22:05pm] <AllegedlyDead> I'll copy this log to my docs so I know to review it.
[06:22:05pm] <W1ZrD> or actually..
[06:22:25pm] <W1ZrD> Should we go the other way around, so that the goverment is loosing more and more power, and more and more control
[06:22:49pm] <W1ZrD> so that individual corportations are the ones actually running the internal economic infrastructure
[06:23:12pm] <W1ZrD> Microsoft gives brainimplants to everyone, from birth
[06:23:15pm] <W1ZrD> -----
[06:23:47pm] <AllegedlyDead> .......................................
[06:23:48pm] <AllegedlyDead> You know what.
[06:24:02pm] <W1ZrD> It's only the rich people, the ones who made a fortune of out the war, who can affor their own space traveling
[06:24:04pm] <W1ZrD> nope?
[06:24:09pm] <AllegedlyDead> Leave me with some of this stuff.
[06:24:31pm] <W1ZrD> a little bit more ideas coming...
[06:24:38pm] <W1ZrD> A) there aren't many cities left
[06:25:06pm] <W1ZrD> only some of the largest cities around the world has managed to survive and they have grown 10-15 times bigger than they were, and then some
[06:25:21pm] <W1ZrD> so no more than 10-15 cities across the entire earth, or so..
[06:25:43pm] <W1ZrD> technological standards are very high, if you can afford it
[06:25:58pm] <W1ZrD> cybernetic implants are as common as taking a dump
[06:26:14pm] <AllegedlyDead> Check... Perfect idea.
[06:26:18pm] <W1ZrD> genetic implants are more rare but mainly used within the military
[06:26:19pm] <AllegedlyDead> Purists.
[06:26:41pm] <W1ZrD> yea, they are 'normal' humans who refuse to use technology, implants and other stuff..
[06:26:54pm] <W1ZrD> i.e it will be a basic human as a character choice
[06:27:33pm] <W1ZrD> as for police, that should be something which is still controlled by the goverment, but the police has more power at hand
[06:28:01pm] <AllegedlyDead> You're taking a lot of this stuff from current day events aren't you?
[06:28:28pm] <W1ZrD> basically like todays SWAT teams, but with artificial implants enhancing their abilities in civil wars, against poison gases and so..
[06:28:38pm] <W1ZrD> hmm, dunno, kinda mixing with whatever comes
[06:28:43pm] <W1ZrD> been thinking alot, and for long
[06:28:59pm] <W1ZrD> but as I've said, I really can't write and get it out...it's all stuck in my head
[06:29:18pm] <W1ZrD> usually when there has been ideas like this, then we've been talking face-to-face
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[06:29:36pm] <AllegedlyDead> Yes.
[06:29:48pm] <W1ZrD> in every city there are thousands of outcasts hiding in secrecy from police and goverment
[06:30:08pm] <W1ZrD> they are poor and they usually do drug-trafficing and steal to survive
[06:30:15pm] <W1ZrD> outlaws basically
[06:30:26pm] <AllegedlyDead> Well, I can think of this... A lot of this stuff could be used for an intro.
[06:30:40pm] <W1ZrD> and the techology they have at hand are things they find, things they still and things they get over by killing richer people
[06:30:56pm] <W1ZrD> I am still hoping for my Maya license
[06:31:04pm] <W1ZrD> if I can get that, then I can model how I see it
[06:31:22pm] <W1ZrD> otherwise I'll use some learning edition, just to show what I have in my head
[06:31:31pm] <AllegedlyDead> Just pirate a copy.
[06:31:39pm] <W1ZrD> ...
[06:31:41pm] <W1ZrD> anyway...
[06:31:44pm] <AllegedlyDead> Yeah.
[06:31:53pm] <W1ZrD> in the cities there are also underground 'areas'
[06:32:08pm] <W1ZrD> places which these outlaws have built in order to avoid detection
[06:32:34pm] <W1ZrD> in the underground areas there is a simple way of life..survive
[06:33:13pm] <W1ZrD> some humans are mutated animals, so they can have human form, with dog ears and fangs
[06:33:45pm] <W1ZrD> these 'failed' humans are usually thrown down to the underground areas, or out in the 'forbidden zones'
[06:33:56pm] <AllegedlyDead> Genetic Manipulation.
[06:34:15pm] <W1ZrD> the forbidden zone's are places where all toxic, and possibly, dangerous material, alterations e.t.c is simply dumped from above
[06:34:25pm] <W1ZrD> yea, genetic experiments gone wrong
[06:34:56pm] <W1ZrD> there are gang-wars even underground, even more so than up in the cities
[06:35:21pm] <W1ZrD> these gang-wars can be religiosly related, hatred against mutants, black v.s white e.t.c
[06:35:56pm] <W1ZrD> people don't only use cybernetics and genetics, they also use robotics
[06:36:28pm] <W1ZrD> because now robotics have evolved to a level where the AI is good enough to create robots for the military in larger scales
[06:36:57pm] <W1ZrD> the robots are also used in construction, like building-robots e.t.c
[06:37:26pm] <W1ZrD> all cities have massive guard towers surrounding them
[06:37:38pm] <AllegedlyDead> This is really starting to sound like this could go in the direction of a FPS-RPG kind of thing.
[06:37:41pm] <W1ZrD> to prevent 'outcasts' from entering the cities
[06:38:02pm] <W1ZrD> dunno really
[06:38:22pm] <W1ZrD> I had this idea at first, but I don't think that the q3 engine would 'be enough'
[06:38:31pm] <AllegedlyDead> It won't be.
[06:38:32pm] <W1ZrD> but to use this scenario as I describe..
[06:38:40pm] <AllegedlyDead> Unless you manage to optimize the renderer quite a bit.
[06:38:43pm] <W1ZrD> make it in several sections
[06:38:51pm] <AllegedlyDead> To handle excessive amounts of polygons.
[06:39:04pm] <W1ZrD> you start playing it as an RTS with military units, police and what not...
[06:39:17pm] <W1ZrD> and then it later turns in to an FPS with the characters you have guided
[06:39:24pm] <AllegedlyDead> Because there is no way textures alone would be able to make this kind of idea look good.
[06:39:30pm] <W1ZrD> yea
[06:39:37pm] <W1ZrD> not with idtech3
[06:40:01pm] <W1ZrD> with mega-texturing, normal, bumps and per-pixel's, then it could be awesome
[06:40:50pm] <W1ZrD> anyway, back to my idea output
[06:40:52pm] <W1ZrD> the mutants...
[06:41:02pm] <W1ZrD> the goverment, and most people, dispise them
[06:41:07pm] <W1ZrD> (despice)?
[06:41:10pm] <W1ZrD> hate
[06:41:39pm] <W1ZrD> most mutants are thrown out of the cities, to walk the wastelands; killed on the spot, or driven down in the underground areas
[06:41:44pm] <beast> despise
[06:41:49pm] <W1ZrD> thanks
[06:42:04pm] <beast> np
[06:42:07pm] <AllegedlyDead> Gonna go ahead and start working on the narrative intro.
[06:42:09pm] <AllegedlyDead> Continue talking.
[06:42:14pm] <AllegedlyDead> I wanna see what I can come up with.
[06:42:39pm] <W1ZrD> not all, but a few, of the mutants not only have 'special physical' abilities, but also eh...
[06:42:45pm] <W1ZrD> psycokentic?
[06:43:04pm] <W1ZrD> they do things with their mind, controlling fire, water, telekinesis e.t.c
[06:43:23pm] <W1ZrD> no idea what that could be called
[06:43:59pm] <W1ZrD> some really rare mutants can read peoples minds, they can control thoughts, they can energize thoughts to energy released from their bodies
[06:44:31pm] <W1ZrD> they can combust themselves without dying, some are immune to fire, some have (geals?) ((what fish uses to breath under water)
[06:44:34pm] <AllegedlyDead> psychokinesis?
[06:44:39pm] <W1ZrD> dunno, maybe
[06:45:04pm] <W1ZrD> The goverment is supressing these mutants, killing them e.t.c because they are afraid of them
[06:45:18pm] <W1ZrD> because there is no way of telling what kind of powers the mutants have
[06:45:39pm] <W1ZrD> and that is the start of a 'civil war' or however we call it..
[06:46:17pm] <W1ZrD> that the mutants are planning to overthrow the goverment because they have been forced to live on nothing, treated as animals and sent to die
[06:46:44pm] <W1ZrD> of course the goverment has it's military, it's police and scientists...
[06:46:48pm] <AllegedlyDead> Heh, I can so work with this.
[06:47:08pm] <AllegedlyDead> All the areas of interest.
[06:47:15pm] <W1ZrD> but the mutants have their special powers, their knowledge of the cities darkests corners and their own scientists
[06:47:43pm] <W1ZrD> the wastelands are still highly radioactive, most of it anyway..
[06:48:14pm] <W1ZrD> so the 'outcast' mutants are even stronger than the ones in the cities because they have developed a stronger immunesystem
[06:48:36pm] <W1ZrD> this coudl be used in a mission....
[06:48:54pm] <W1ZrD> that both "camps" should try to find one of these 'outcasts'
[06:49:07pm] <W1ZrD> the mutants want him/her because he is powerful to have on their side
[06:49:33pm] <W1ZrD> the goverment want him/her to experiement and gene-alterate
[06:50:13pm] <W1ZrD> This whole thing should be dark, pessimistic and life is really hard as it is..
[06:50:17pm] <W1ZrD> people kill for survival
[06:50:50pm] <W1ZrD> There is almost no natural water left on the planet, it all dried out and it's only waste land left
[06:51:07pm] <W1ZrD> there are some places where there are forests, jungles and so, but extremely rare
[06:51:18pm] <W1ZrD> so oxygen levels are really low outside of the cities
[06:52:01pm] <W1ZrD> there are robots being sent out to the wasteland areas to investigate where there might be traces of water
[06:52:06pm] <W1ZrD> some of them don't return
[06:52:28pm] <W1ZrD> and the parts from these robots are then used by the habitants of these forbidden zones, or wasteland areas
[06:53:01pm] <W1ZrD> Inside the cities it's "standard blade runner"
[06:53:18pm] <W1ZrD> magnetic strips with train carts
[06:53:27pm] <W1ZrD> electric cars driven by computers
[06:53:34pm] <W1ZrD> neon-lights everywhere
[06:54:07pm] <W1ZrD> on the lower levels of the town, like 1-30 stories high, the air is so polluted so that it's foggy
[06:55:08pm] <W1ZrD> because the atmosphere? was destroyed after all the nuclear emmisions and pollution
[06:55:23pm] <W1ZrD> it does not offer any protection from the sun's rays any longer
[06:55:27pm] <AllegedlyDead> ok, going afk for who knows how long.
[06:55:35pm] <W1ZrD> so the cities have that 'bubble' with artificial skies
[06:55:37pm] <W1ZrD> kk..
[06:55:40pm] <W1ZrD> anyway..
[06:55:43pm] <W1ZrD> that's a bit
[06:55:54pm] <beast> cooooooool so far....
[06:56:08pm] <W1ZrD> You think this is something that can work?
[06:56:32pm] <W1ZrD> I'm thinking much towards character concepts, how we can make as much as possible in that area
[06:57:12pm] <W1ZrD> like now, we can have humans, military troopers, robots, mutants (in all flavours), SWAT troopers...
[06:57:46pm] <W1ZrD> beast: What do you think of the idea in introducting veichles to it?
[06:58:00pm] <beast> could be fun...
[06:58:20pm] <W1ZrD> on certain maps, in certain areas, that you can control a hoover-craft, motorcycle, spaceship e.t.c
[06:58:38pm] <W1ZrD> code-wise it shouldn't be that tricky to make, should it?
[06:58:59pm] <beast> errr, well, mmm...
[06:59:18pm] <W1ZrD> I have the source for Q3 rally, even though the site died
[06:59:21pm] <W1ZrD> and it's GPL
[06:59:29pm] <beast> sweet
[06:59:35pm] <W1ZrD> there you drive a car
[06:59:49pm] <beast> brb. gotta take my son over to the gym...
[06:59:57pm] <W1ZrD> ok, talk to you later..
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[07:26:14pm] <beast> back... (what the command for being back?)...
[07:33:42pm] <W1ZrD> /back
[07:33:47pm] <W1ZrD> and /away
[07:34:09pm] <AllegedlyDead> I'm back, but dunno for how long.
[07:36:14pm] <beast> I tried /back and it says unknown command
[07:36:19pm] <W1ZrD> áº„hat do you think AD, should we try to have veichles?
[07:36:22pm] <W1ZrD> really?
[07:36:29pm] <AllegedlyDead> •beast• Right-click, away control, back.
[07:36:57pm] <W1ZrD> I just type /back here, on the same line as I type text
[07:37:04pm] ERROR > 421: Unknown command: BACK
[07:38:09pm] <beast> when i right click I only get 'set away' and 'view messages'
[07:38:15pm] * AllegedlyDead is AFK, on another planet
[07:38:17pm] <AllegedlyDead> Err.
[07:38:18pm] * AllegedlyDead is back from on another planet. I was gone for 3secs
[07:38:23pm] <AllegedlyDead> Type in /away again.
[07:38:30pm] * beast is back from on another planet. I was gone for 38mins —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[07:38:36pm] <AllegedlyDead> lol
[07:38:37pm] <W1ZrD> weeee
[07:39:29pm] <AllegedlyDead> What's the message length of this network?
[07:40:06pm] <W1ZrD> no idea
[07:40:26pm] <AllegedlyDead> Here, I'll post what I have on the forums.
[07:40:30pm] <AllegedlyDead> It's three "paragraphs"
[07:40:36pm] <AllegedlyDead> In memory warehouse.
[07:40:43pm] <W1ZrD> ok, nice...
[07:42:11pm] <AllegedlyDead> furver.no-ip.org/rainb...=3355#3355
[07:42:14pm] <W1ZrD> Did you post it?
[07:42:15pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ok, go take a read.
[07:42:21pm] <W1ZrD> will do
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[07:43:01pm] <AllegedlyDead> It's probably not the best of things.
[07:43:08pm] <AllegedlyDead> But it's what I came up with as far as some kind of intro.
[07:43:52pm] <W1ZrD> it's a good start
[07:44:04pm] <W1ZrD> (now Jack can get his wish and shoot politicians)
[07:44:13pm] <AllegedlyDead> lmfao
[07:44:53pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ok, here's something else to consider.
[07:45:19pm] <AllegedlyDead> If we're going to have an intro, we need to build the game's story-line to where the intro is completely optional.
[07:45:58pm] <AllegedlyDead> That means dialogue is going to have to be made in such a way where that is possible.
[07:46:06pm] <W1ZrD> yeah
[07:46:35pm] <W1ZrD> and I also want it to use one character as it's 'calling-card" (or whatever it's called)
[07:46:51pm] <W1ZrD> like Open Arena had with kyonshi, but then failed to care about
[07:46:57pm] <W1ZrD> like Q3 has with Sarge
[07:47:20pm] <W1ZrD> and I want, doesn't matter male or female, but him/her to have the Duke Nukem attitude
[07:47:31pm] <AllegedlyDead> OH GOD NO!
[07:47:34pm] * AllegedlyDead explodes.
[07:47:46pm] <W1ZrD> 'I need an alien toilet to park my bricks'
[07:47:50pm] <W1ZrD> it's so sweet
[07:47:57pm] <AllegedlyDead> nononononononononononononononononono
[07:48:01pm] <W1ZrD> hahha
[07:48:13pm] <W1ZrD> We need something with attitude
[07:48:23pm] <W1ZrD> someone who has been through rough times, been there; done that
[07:48:23pm] <AllegedlyDead> Well it's hell isn't going to be the main character.
[07:48:39pm] <AllegedlyDead> Just let it be a minor character.
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[07:51:50pm] <AllegedlyDead> You missed everything.
[07:52:08pm] <jack_thompson> what did i miss?
[07:52:09pm] <AllegedlyDead> I'll have to send you a log.
[07:52:26pm] <jack_thompson> ok
[07:52:27pm] <AllegedlyDead> We're discussing W1ZrD's basic story idea for the game.
[07:52:34pm] <jack_thompson> oh
[07:52:52pm] <AllegedlyDead> I made a quick post in Memory Warehouse of an intro.
[07:54:21pm] <W1ZrD> Actually...
[07:54:44pm] <W1ZrD> You mention nuclear more times than I could count
[07:54:50pm] <AllegedlyDead> lmfao
[07:55:28pm] <AllegedlyDead> OH COME ON!
[07:55:33pm] <AllegedlyDead> It's mentioned five times.
[07:55:35pm] <W1ZrD> Should I continue to blurt out what I had in mind?
[07:55:38pm] <W1ZrD> hahaha
[07:55:43pm] <W1ZrD> (he went and counted)
[07:55:53pm] * AllegedlyDead pounces W1ZrD
[07:56:27pm] <AllegedlyDead> •W1ZrD• You wouldn't be able to summarize what you had in mind.
[07:56:27pm] * W1ZrD is getting pounced
[07:56:35pm] <W1ZrD> argh...
[07:56:43pm] <W1ZrD> nuclear war, they die and live in cities
[07:56:50pm] <W1ZrD> and eat
[07:56:58pm] <W1ZrD> hmm...
[07:57:04pm] <AllegedlyDead> That's a broad simplifiscation of a rather stupidly-complex story.
[07:57:10pm] <AllegedlyDead> lol
[07:57:40pm] <jack_thompson> man.. on such a nuked world the high scores should count suicides...
[07:57:48pm] <W1ZrD> I love the logic adrian carmack came up with for early stages of quake
[07:58:14pm] <W1ZrD> 'if it moves, kill it' <-- perfect...no need for more
[07:58:30pm] <AllegedlyDead> I do that all the time...
[07:58:38pm] <AllegedlyDead> Even in those games where you aren't suppose to.
[07:58:41pm] <AllegedlyDead> XD
[07:58:44pm] <W1ZrD> problem is that it fails to include campers
[07:58:49pm] <W1ZrD> they don't move
[07:59:04pm] <jack_thompson> you guys... i'll go to bed... i have only 4h of sleep left
[07:59:16pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ok.
[07:59:19pm] <AllegedlyDead> G'night and best of dreams.
[07:59:27pm] <beast> nite
[07:59:27pm] <W1ZrD> ok, nite nite Jack...
[07:59:33pm] <W1ZrD> actually, AD...how about this:
[07:59:37pm] <W1ZrD> as for a start to the war
[07:59:52pm] <jack_thompson> ye... night AD... night W1ZrD and night beast...
[08:00:10pm] <W1ZrD> that it was actually a country who mistakenly launched nuclear warheads to them being programmed wrong
[08:00:25pm] <W1ZrD> bah...nevermind
[08:00:27pm] <W1ZrD> nite jack
[08:00:40pm] <AllegedlyDead> Yeah.
[08:00:43pm] <AllegedlyDead> Lets not do that.
[08:01:41pm] <W1ZrD> out in the wastelands, where radioactivity is so high, all sorts of creatuers have mutated also
[08:01:58pm] <W1ZrD> (in single-player/co-op(or whatever) they can become 'bosses'
[08:02:31pm] <jack_thompson> don't forget the boobies..
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[08:03:56pm] <AllegedlyDead> •W1ZrD• Do this.
[08:04:22pm] <W1ZrD> mutants with titties on their heads?
[08:04:33pm] <AllegedlyDead> Make out a list of gameplay features, post them somewhere on the forums, and let us review it.
[08:04:47pm] <W1ZrD> I already did a few
[08:06:02pm] <AllegedlyDead> I could easily start a story based on what you have.
[08:06:15pm] <AllegedlyDead> But I doubt it would translate well into a game.
[08:07:28pm] <W1ZrD> Well I would love if you could try to get that idea to some sort of writing, just to give a really wide look on what type of world/setting it is..
[08:07:48pm] <W1ZrD> then we can hand that to Ericka (our concept artist) so she can start drawing based on that
[08:08:17pm] <W1ZrD> the characters, weapons, clothes, items will come eventually, but as for the 'overview of the world'
[08:08:56pm] <AllegedlyDead> •W1ZrD• Ok, before I start, can you start giving me names for people, places, cities, governments, countries?
[08:08:59pm] <W1ZrD> I've been trying to say it like: bladerunner/warhammer/madmax type of thing...but with drawings and concept it's better to visualise
[08:09:54pm] <W1ZrD> Don't write it like a 'book story' type now though, just very basic...lets assume now that there are 8 major cities in the world...
[08:10:53pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ehehe.
[08:11:03pm] <W1ZrD> three in USA, one in Brussels, on in Egypt, one in India, one in China and maybe one in Japan
[08:11:46pm] <W1ZrD> each of the cities have like 30-80 million inhabitants, but it's impossible to count
[08:11:57pm] <AllegedlyDead> Ok, lets change USA to North America
[08:12:02pm] <W1ZrD> hmm..or is that too much people?
[08:12:22pm] <AllegedlyDead> Well.
[08:12:32pm] <W1ZrD> the third world as we know it today is basically wiped out
[08:12:36pm] <AllegedlyDead> The cities are going to span many miles.....
[08:12:43pm] <AllegedlyDead> Many many many many many many many miles.
[08:12:47pm] <W1ZrD> they didn't have the economy to protect themselves during the wars
[08:13:47pm] <W1ZrD> probably 85% of the entire third-world was evaporated and the remaining ones took shelter in the nearby cities or started their lives in the wasteland areas
[08:15:29pm] <W1ZrD> the 'old' goverments fell apart during the wars because they lost confidence in the people and people lost confidence in them
[08:17:33pm] <W1ZrD> eventually one large goverment authortity was formed, which originated in the United Nations, but evolved to a corporate funded authority which is eventuallity controlled by the stock-holders...or so
[08:17:42pm] <W1ZrD> eventually I should stop writing eventually
[08:18:11pm] <AllegedlyDead> Well, you've gotten basically all that I need.
[08:18:51pm] <W1ZrD> the enviroment should be really weird, weird in the sense that climate change has turned things inside-out
[08:19:36pm] <W1ZrD> there are also ion-generators producing electricity, no coal plants
[08:20:02pm] <W1ZrD> nuclear weapons have all been disposed of, to save what's left of humankind
[08:20:20pm] <W1ZrD> but they are still kept in secrecy, both by corporations, and the goverment
[08:21:38pm] <AllegedlyDead> I probably won't start tonight on it, but I have an idea of how to incorperate some of this stuff.
[08:21:44pm] <AllegedlyDead> Won't be using the intro I made though.
[08:22:42pm] <W1ZrD> years and timeline is up to you if you want...
[08:24:53pm] <W1ZrD> I somehow think that the cities should be a bit like Blade Runner, the wasteland (forbidden zones) like Mad Max beyond thunderdome/Judge Dredd
[08:27:17pm] <W1ZrD> spawn.com/toys/movies/..._02_dl.jpg
<-- that is a nice reference
[08:27:51pm] <W1ZrD> a 'normal' human in the slum area, that's where buildings aren't repaired due to lack of attention and funds
[08:31:41pm] <W1ZrD> Have you seen a movie called Vampire Hunter D?
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