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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

Hello Again!!!!!!!!

Guys,one of my sata disk(320gb) had been crushed during my long long mt. services.....It says "driver has to be formatted" so i found a recovery software which can recover 300gb data of that sata hdd.....The problem is : is it possible to use the unformatted area as a recovery path (is there a program for that which recover and recopy to same harddisk without using any other media??? I mean i dont have enough memory on the other hdd's....I tried external disk which has 500 gb capacity in it but as u know,with usb 2.0(really slow data sending),estimated time is 5 days which is a terrible time for waiting......




P.S. : Nice to get back and see u again......

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

Welcome back!

I've used Sleuth kit Autopsy which worked well. I ran it under Linux and I think it should be possible to specify the whole drive (e.g /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1).

Edit: sorry, I misunderstood. What you're looking for is probably something that can repair the file system. I'd recommend copying all data to the USB drive if you don't want to risk losing anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

I'm not sure what you mean by the "other" unformatted area. You can recover stuff from the same hard drive if you have two partitions. Otherwise you shouldn't attemp to do this if you value your data.

In any case, you'll have to wait quite a lot for the recovery software to analyse your disk. And then, the recovered files will probably be a mess that'll take you ages to sort out. USB 2 will suck 320 Gb in a matter of hours, not days, this shouldn't be your primary concern.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

Jocke, I think he isn't asking for choosing the whole drive to recover, but rather to use the same drive to keep the recoverred data.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

kernel_panic wrote:
Jocke, I think he isn't asking for choosing the whole drive to recover, but rather to use the same drive to keep the recoverred data.

Yeah, edited the post.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

Take that drive to a puter that works, put it in, boot windows and run this in a command prompt: chkdsk /f .

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

thank u all...I considered all of your answer and i installed win7 and use recovery software with external hdd and it lasted 9 hour to recover which is a good time for 300gb.........Now,i have a new problem to solve....After installing win7(ultimate) to my old computer(which has intel d865 perl board) works good.....But when i try to shutdown it starts to make progress in terms of shutdowning it finished its work with closing all program and other stuff then a confusing screen then bluescreen which monitor a smwdm.sys error(which is a system file for soundmax) and it restarts the computer so i shut my computer down with my hand....When i look to the control panel section,there arent any driver error which is noted as question mark in system section.........how can i fix this???

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

If you are using the soundmax driver that came with windows, try using the latest driver you can find from the manufacturer instead.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

"Looking for SoundMAX PC Drivers?
Support and downloads for PC drivers are not handled by Analog Devices.

This is handled directly by the manufacturer of the PC or motherboard that you purchased. Please locate your computer/motherboard model number on your PC and then search for it on the manufacturer's website for support and downloads. You can also search "SoundMAX drivers" using any search engine to locate support for PC drivers."

As it is mentioned,it is related with my motherboard
and when i look to intel website:

"Intel does not currently plan to develop and offer Windows 7 drivers for any of the discontinued
desktop boards listed below(mine too)."


So do you think to install driver for xp with compatibility mode(by selecting win xp sp3 in win 7??))(so stupid??) or any other suggestion?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

No you cant realy use other than Vista drivers because of how they work. See if windows update has any updated drivers for your onboard sound. If not, disable it and buy a cheap add in soundcard.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

Hey! I thought that only happened to Linux users! Wasn't Windows supposed to work?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

kernel_panic wrote:
Hey! I thought that only happened to Linux users! Wasn't Windows supposed to work?

We still havent dismissed the probability of a hardware fault tho. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Stupid question(ready?) Reply with quote

Oh oh ... long time ... :/

anyway , linux can help also in the case your disk has lost its partition table ; independently of you are using linux or not , you can backup MBR - which contains also the partition table - with the dd command in a reasonable enough secure location or extract MBR block to be then written in a recover CD ; you can do that even if your main system is not linux simply by using a linux live CD.

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sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=$secure_location/Backups/MBR/backup_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1

Then to ( eventually ) recover it :

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sudo dd if=$secure_location/Backups/MBR/backup_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda  bs=512 count=1

Of course you have to subsitute /dev/sda with the correct name device of the harddisk you are trying to recover.

Anyway recovering MBR and the partition table doesn't guarantee that your system will boot for sure or that all your data will be readable , but at least you will be able to choose what to be recovered in case you had more than a single partition in the disk ( eg if you have a SYS only and a DATA only partitions )

You can then try a tool like SystemRescueCD ( www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page ) which supports also windows filesystems ( vfat and ntfs ) . Linux usually can be faster because of the possibility of the RAW (direct) access to the medium.

It could be also a better idea first cloning the RAW content of the disk into another disk and then trying to recover data.
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