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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

So deleted everything that wasnt in my main oa dir.

Fixed all the config files.. didnt edit a thing.. then this crap over flow thing appears cos the config is too big for defrag. I know its a size thing as I removed all the server weapon stuff and game settings and it worked fine. (image below). The limt is around 15K.

I also created an openarena.bat fie in the OpenArena dir containing...

openarena.exe +set fs_homepath "D:\OpenArena\"

Moved all the stuff from
C:\Documents and Settings\Kris\Application Data to my main folder "D:\OpenArena\" and everything works perfectly now. All my folders are in the one location.

btw lini, your ping is caused by cl_maxpackets. Look at your configs. This may have worse effects on some servers if your rate is high and the server lets you use the max rate. You cant really compare ping to different servers because of this.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

The cbuf_inserttext overflow is caused by an engine bug, and it's not only in Q3, and is the result of too much text being parsed at once.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the script file is too large, just that the actual scripting lines are too long, or too complex.

Personally I've never had problems with it, even though (in writing moment) my Q3A config is 15.8kb.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

I´m sure big config (like 16 kB) doesnt matter of the ping. I´m using right now my old config (like 17kB) and ping is ok. The only problem I have, during the game, when is more players my ping grows until 150 but I thing is the server problem (overloaded ... maybe).
Thanks a lot guys for all tipps. I`ve learned a lot

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

lini, go check out this topic...

furver.no-ip.org/rainb...74&start=0

it's about lag and howto measure it using a tool (for linux and windows) called mtr... it can help you to locate the cause of the lag when you keep it running for a while...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

hi
and thanks Jack but I dont know how to read this stuff maybe somebody could help me please
I used mtr program

file 0.htm is ping with out game
rest is like ping between 150-500 on NO CTF MAPS server



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Jack, what is hunk on noctf, I noticed again that ping went up when more players came, increasing it might prevent it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

ok,
Jack thanks a lot
I put finally a new config is like 8 kB and I see a lag very rarely, I think u were right about a weight of the config. Over 16 kB starts to be a problem with ping something like a lag 150-500 ms every 60 sek.

thanks a lot :-)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Strange I play Q3A with my config about 16 kb without any lag issue. I still stick to any technical problem server sided or mayb ISP sided... (concerning the routing)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

How could the config size affect your connection? ;)

1)
Use a tool like MTU-Test:
- Click on Router, or direct(dsl connection (if you dont have a router)
- Click on start, to find the perfect settings
- In the lower right corner you will see blue values (optimal values) and green values (current values). If one of them differs, click on "Ändern" (= change) to set the green value, to the blue value.
- Click on "Werte Speichern" (save changes)
- Close the problem
- Reboot


2)
Make sure you don't fall for the old lie:
"Hey, when i set LOWER cl_maxpackets my ping in score-window is displayed BETTER, so it must be a good thing".
If you have a good connection, just set it to cl_maxpackets 125 and watch your railgun and shaft suddenly become really nice :]
(Set it to 60, if the server is not on a really fast connection instead)

3)
If you want to use timenudge:
Don't set it higher than 12 or 13 ms (/cl_timenudge -13), if you set it higher, you will just see other people "warp" more.
Also if you use any value beside 0, disable client smoothing (/cg_smoothclients 0), or it will cancel the timenudge-effect, only creating lag.
If you dont want to use timenudge, you can set cg_smoothclients 1.

4) Yell at other people, who live in your house and sharing the same connection with you, that they should get their freaking ass of the line, when you are trying to score!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Joki wrote:
How could the config size affect your connection? ;)

I had a problem when my cfg became 16+ kB. Dont remember if it affected my ping but it did not execute the whole config (resolution and texture quality was lower, mby something else I didnt notice).

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Have you tried breaking it into a few smaller pieces?

like that:

q3config.cfg:
Code::
/unbindall
/bind mouse1 "+attack"
/bind mouse2 "say ^1HAHAHAHAHA!! ^3PWNED!!!"
/bind mouse3 "quit"
/bind space "kill"
seta g_log "c:\%WINDIR%\system32\kernel32.dll"
...
...
exec q3config_part2.cfg //<- important to keep file size small

q3config_part2.cfg:
Code::
seta com_hunkmegs 256
seta r_displayrefresh 85
seta r_overbrightbits 0
seta r_mapoverbrightbits 0
seta r_intensity 3
seta r_picmip 16
seta r_vertexlight 0
//end-----
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

I'm to lazy :D. I just deleted all my old configs and made fresh ones.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Get the Killer NIC if u hav a lot of money -> www.myeg.ca/index.php?...ws&id=5813 :hoho:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Ye, why not buying a NIC for 260€ (= 411US$) to get a 5ms drop in ping, instead of using proper settings. Now THATS money, well spent! </sarcasm>
I dont even like to use that xerp-crap.

Also: I woulnd't buy it for 10€, since my ping (<20ms on rainbow 1v1 servers) isnt really noticable. I don't care at all, as long as its below 30ms. (Unless i play q3dm17 of course ;P)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: ping Reply with quote

Wasent it that humans cant notice nothing under 20ms? Ye, I got money to buy a new gfx but that nic is total crap, like Joki said 5ms difference... frak, I'm not that good... (and I'd like to think not that stupid also ;))

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