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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm planning to add server-side auto-recorded demos to a certain server and therefore I wanted to ask if any of you guys could give me some pointers on that topic :grin: .

I only know that CPMA has such a feature (they also record multi-spectator demos or whatever they call it). But I'm not sure if that code is even available.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

TheDoctor wrote:
Hi,

I'm planning to add server-side auto-recorded demos to a certain server and therefore I wanted to ask if any of you guys could give me some pointers on that topic :grin: .

I only know that CPMA has such a feature (they also record multi-spectator demos or whatever they call it). But I'm not sure if that code is even available.

Best regards,

TheDoctor

I found this patch from tremulous and I've posted also on OA forum ( openarena.ws/board/ind...9#msg33459 )
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

hi doc, i hope you are aware that

a) even if you manage to implant it in your server, players are still able to immediatly /stoprecord
b) if you do it for anti-cheating purposes, find a way to have OA support pb. :O

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

Joki wrote:
even if you manage to implant it in your server, players are still able to immediatly /stoprecord

There must be a way to record that, which could be record by a client, also directly on the server. I cannot think of any reason why this should be impossible. The client won't have anything to say about this.

Surely, the application would be to collect proof against cheaters, because I won't spec all day. Concerning cheaters, I already banned the first one today.

Concerning OA and PB: it won't happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

Falkland wrote:
I found this patch from tremulous and I've posted also on OA forum ( openarena.ws/board/ind...9#msg33459 )
Thanks, Falkland. I'll give it a try.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

The Tremulous server-side demos work in principle, but they require a patched server to replay them and a patched cgame to be able to follow the recorded players.

Therefore I followed my initial idea by taking the recording code from the client and porting it to the server. Take a look at ScrewOA's demo page.



openarena-serverdemo.patch
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server-side recorded client demos
 Filename:  openarena-serverdemo.patch
 Filesize:  23.73 KB
 Downloaded:  209 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

Uh, won't this raise privacy concerns?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

kernel_panic wrote:
Uh, won't this raise privacy concerns?
Neither VOIP, chat (say/tell) nor broadcast messages (print) are recorded, so it does not compromise the little privacy we have left.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

VOIP is working in OA?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

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VOIP is working in OA?
It is enabled on the server, so I think it should work, if your client supports it. Maybe in the future, I will misuse it to stream some music... :rotfl: (probably a bad idea due to the used codecs/limited bandwidth).

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: server-side auto-recorded demos - where to look at? Reply with quote

kernel_panic wrote:
Uh, won't this raise privacy concerns?

I don't see any implication in player's privacy ... IP is not exposed , only the Country and the AS
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