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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

okay... somehow the polling rate of my usb port was back to 125 Hz and i thought my mouse was broken so i threw my copperhead against the wall where the trashbin stands...

being the 2nd copperhead that left me i decided to go for a nice mx518 this time... looking at the configs at challengetv i realized that everyone was using mx-something-mice... so...

the mx518... the package says 400/800/1800 DPI (Copperhead 400/800/1600/2000) and 125Hz (Copperhead 125/500/1000)...

i use ~25cm for a 360 turn..

both work fine with 1000Hz polling rates though... so i do enable 1000Hz polling rate for USB... in linux..

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echo "options usbhid mousepoll=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/usbhid

well.. i tried the mx518 for a few days and was irritated by it's shape.. it felt bigger than the copperhead which should be better since i got pretty large hands... but it's actually the same size.. and turned out that the edge where i rest my thumb was annoying... and the feet of the mouse are freaking huge which causes more friction... i could fix the edge and the large feet with a dremel...
but i also had problems with fast turns... despite the 1000Hz it sometimes had problems with fast movement.. lagging behind and shit... 500Hz and 125Hz made it much worse...
so i taped my copperhead back together... and use it again... fast turns work better with her for some reason... but then again i use need ~25cm for a 360 because i love the mg so much... also i can grab the copperhead only using my fingertips (on the rubber edge surrounding it) which results in making the player figure aim by only moving the fingers... sweet... i had to grap around the mx518 with my hand which did result in having always to move my wrist... i don't know both mice are fine... and if my table is lower i might try the mx518 again since moving the wrist will be easier then...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

PopeJo wrote:
I once had a little rabbit, but it died someday :s

i eat rabbits and poop them out...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

Deer goulash is pretty tasty too.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

You made a similar mistake to me it seems, my copperhead died so I got a lachesis - the shape is awful.

/me wants his old copperhead back!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

Deathadder ftw!!! XP

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

I'm quite happy with my walmart effort.

Where is this hack falky has for the extra mouse vars? I want my movement exactly like 1.16.. the original smooth and responsive movement.

Is there any point in compiling the 071 client binary or is that more or less the legacy binary. But the legacy binary has windows accell.. i cant remember if 071 done that. I will consider getting a better mouse (equiped with feet) when the root cause has been resolved :(
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

I've got the Logitech G5 laser mouse thingy and I couldn't be happier. It's got weights (I hate light mice) and the accuracy is amazing.

I've got quite large hands too, but it seems to fit perfectly. you should try one out, they aren't very expensive

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

I like the idea of the weights :O I use A4 paper rather than a desk or mouse pad and sometimes slips as the mouse is kinda light. Think I'll go order one now.

I see I'm not the only one fussy about mouse feet..

www.hardforum.com/arch...18412.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

chiquita wrote:
Is there any point in compiling the 071 client binary or is that more or less the legacy binary. But the legacy binary has windows accell.. i cant remember if 071 done that. I will consider getting a better mouse (equiped with feet) when the root cause has been resolved :(

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse]
"SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,40,\
01,00,00,00,00,00,00,80,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,05,00,00,00,00,00
"SmoothMouseYCurve"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,66,a6,02,00,00,00,00,00,cd,4c,\
05,00,00,00,00,00,a0,99,0a,00,00,00,00,00,38,33,15,00,00,00,00,00

No more windows mouse accel.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

chiquita wrote:

Where is this hack falky has for the extra mouse vars?

- it's a smoother mouse accel function
- that patch is used in urban terror.
- it's used also in xreal project
- it's used as optional in quake live. ( as declared by its author )
- it was firstly provided by jack thompson with his custom q3 1.32b based legacy binary for OA080.
- it was relaunched by me with some patched oa081 sources attached in the oa081 low performance thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

I like my Copperhead and I hope it lives long and prosper. :P

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

chiquita wrote:

Is there any point in compiling the 071 client binary or is that more or less the legacy binary. But the legacy binary has windows accell.. i cant remember if 071 done that. I will consider getting a better mouse (equiped with feet) when the root cause has been resolved :(

For linux users (maybe) it could be useful to read this thread.

Edit : exactly this post
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

chiquita wrote:
I like the idea of the weights :O I use A4 paper rather than a desk or mouse pad and sometimes slips as the mouse is kinda light. Think I'll go order one now.

I see I'm not the only one fussy about mouse feet..

www.hardforum.com/arch...18412.html

I use a leather mousepad from asus, and I haven't had any problems with mouse feet wear and tear.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Logitech MX518 vs. Razer Copperhead Reply with quote

I'm using a Razer Diamondback and a big ass Everglide Titan pad to have in theory enough space for a big turning circle. In theory, because most of the pull-out table is covered by my keyboard. :(

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